H1 Keep on the Shadowfell & Quick-Start Rules (4e) – An Introductory 4th Edition D&D Adventure for Characters of Levels 1st-3rd. The town of. The town of Winterhaven stands watch over a ruined keep that was once a bastion of good in the realm. This keep overlooks the Shadow Rift. Over in Help! I am going to teach D&D4E to 7+ people, I made a throw-away comment that I thought that H1 blows chunks.

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Why bother with a town and a town plot if you’re just gonna railroad the PCs out of it as soon as possible?

Home Questions Tags Users Unanswered. What if the Irontooth encounter could be a negotiation shadoqfell not a battle? This is actually the module that pushed me away from 4E until about a year ago, so go figure! Reset Fields Log in.

Dray Interesting settings help make memorable encounters. If H1 is a bad framework, then cite Oberoni by all means.

[4E] Why I think H1 Keep on the Shadowfell sucked

Tabletop Simulator Store Page. It remains one of the weakest of the 4E offerings to this point. I would give you XP, but powers that be say I need to spread the love around! It’s like they tried to be too clever and organized things in a really bizarre way. That doesn’t make it a great module, but I think it does explain the decision. They attack the player characters who are also traveling to Winterhaven.

Monday, 17th March, The player characters soon discover that the kobolds are pawns of Kalarel, a priest of OrcusDemon Prince of Undeath. I wonder if that’s a good new thread.


The aftermath of a multi-objective encounter is far richer as well. Hell, even as a very experienced DM, I had a lot of trouble cobbling something useful out of the mess that is the description of that town.

There are a few options. He was getting paid off to ignore what was going on.

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The town adventure left me cold. When I played through the DM had to give our party 4 newbs and I hate the way they separate places from the NPCs who are in those places. If you’re doing one every two months, you don’t want to lose sales. Wake of the Ravager Dark Sun Online: So shaowfell get to giving you the useful materials.

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It could be so much more. Kalarel plans to reopen the Shadow Rift to connect the material world to Orcus’s temple in the Shadowfell. What if all those undead he’s making are refugee souls from a plane of terrible tyranny and suffering? Aside from the encounter where the party has the opportunity to befriend Sir Keegan, there are only three outcomes to any H1 encounter: Cue war crimes trial skill challenge! Survivors condemned to daily resurrection on the island where the epic-tier rangers train] So, to summarize: Description Discussions Comments Change Notes.

Cue state funeral skill challenge! Understand the adventure was the first for 4e, so its primary purpose was teaching the 4e ruleset. Retrieved from ” https: Before discussion about that eats johnzo’s thread alive, I figured I’d start a new thread to discuss it. Once you finish Keep on the Shadowfell, what next? Every binary objective you add to an encounter doubles the size of its outcome set. The adventure, written by Mike Mearls and Bruce R.


It also discourages fluidness of encounters, which I’ve found is a big win for 4e. New DMs and DMs new to 4e might find that useful but even once you learn the rules, the adventure is lacking without some work on your part. It refocuses combats, removes encounters or shifts them in time, to make a more believable and enjoyable experience. So for me it wasn’t a disaster, but it wasn’t a rocking good time by any means.

To my amusement and their chagrin. Friday, 17th October, Cordell and Mike Mearls and was first published in May Some games will require you to relaunch them before the item will be downloaded. What I want is situation, rich in possibilities, suggestion, and provocation — something that can be engaged in multiple way, but which only the PCs can resolve into snadowfell.

The Oberoni Fallacy doesn’t necessarily apply here: The H1 opponents are somewhat interesting tactically esp. Beholder Drow dark elf Githyanki Illithid mind flayer Lich. Share directly to my status. TPKs happened left and right, but I blame that now in retrospect on thinking from a 3.